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		<title>By: SENSA</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-4848</link>
		<dc:creator>SENSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this film is some big bashy bumba clart business, it opened my eyes big down - the world around us is a fraud, jesus isnt real, and there is no war on terror</description>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-4784</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For; Zar: Zeitgeist means the climate of an era. Actually the name has alot to do with the movie. 9/11 creates a climate for this era... There is other climates in different era's stated in this movie.  Obviously the name Zeitgeist will not cover every topic in the movie as it is broad. That being said, I couldn't think of a better 1 word title, myself. Thus that's one lousy reason to disprove this movie. 

Driftreality stated: Even the omniscient Wikipedia doesn’t provide any coverage of Zeitgeist.
 
Actually it does buddy... So far not impressed by the ?facts? here. 

I myself am a skeptic. I wouldn't be here if I wasnt. 

I can see "why this kind of movie" would put some truths in and leave the rest false, it is a possible successful marketing sceme. However there is no broad and plausible evidence to state that these people involved in this movie are really only out for the money. It is one big curiousity for me. for the meanwhile confusions and questionings will prevail!

One definate truth in this movie is the 9/11 incident being an inside job. 
As for the rest, the evidence is hard to prove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For; Zar: Zeitgeist means the climate of an era. Actually the name has alot to do with the movie. 9/11 creates a climate for this era&#8230; There is other climates in different era&#8217;s stated in this movie.  Obviously the name Zeitgeist will not cover every topic in the movie as it is broad. That being said, I couldn&#8217;t think of a better 1 word title, myself. Thus that&#8217;s one lousy reason to disprove this movie. </p>
<p>Driftreality stated: Even the omniscient Wikipedia doesn’t provide any coverage of Zeitgeist.</p>
<p>Actually it does buddy&#8230; So far not impressed by the ?facts? here. </p>
<p>I myself am a skeptic. I wouldn&#8217;t be here if I wasnt. </p>
<p>I can see &#8220;why this kind of movie&#8221; would put some truths in and leave the rest false, it is a possible successful marketing sceme. However there is no broad and plausible evidence to state that these people involved in this movie are really only out for the money. It is one big curiousity for me. for the meanwhile confusions and questionings will prevail!</p>
<p>One definate truth in this movie is the 9/11 incident being an inside job.<br />
As for the rest, the evidence is hard to prove.</p>
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		<title>By: abbadabba</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-4452</link>
		<dc:creator>abbadabba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I happen to know that this film was the work of a single, focused individual.  Why you need to believe only a cabal of pot smoking professors from Berkley could accomplish such a task suggests you don't want to think we each have the power to challange the status quo and argue for everyone to get involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I happen to know that this film was the work of a single, focused individual.  Why you need to believe only a cabal of pot smoking professors from Berkley could accomplish such a task suggests you don&#8217;t want to think we each have the power to challange the status quo and argue for everyone to get involved.</p>
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		<title>By: townman</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-4436</link>
		<dc:creator>townman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a broader point to part 1 of Zeitgeist.  The film isn't saying some Christian conspiracy throughout history eventually caused 9/11.  I think it's saying that religion has been used to control people for centuries, and has created an atmosphere where people no longer think critically about there lives or their leadership, and instead rely on religion.  And many who are in power today have been able to use religious fervor to their advantage as a result of it.  If we understand this, we can better understand Bush's ability to characterize the war in Iraq (post 9/11) almost as a holy crusade against 'Evil Doers'.  In societies where people supposedly have rights, a public which thinks critically is dangerous for those who'd like to rule.  Religion is a powerful and convenient sedative.

If we do think critically, then we can begin to question some of the things that are being forced on us (without feeling blasphemous or unpatriotic).  We can question the official report on 9/11, why Bush and Cheney were so secretive with the 9/11 commission, the overzealousness to go into Iraq (eventually finding no WMDs), the push behind the patriot act, the forming of the North American Union, etc..  These are all things which rational thought would question. 

From here we can look at our history to see how we got to where we are, who has had power and influence, and how they've used it previously, to better understand our current situation.  And in that light perhaps we can start to look deeper at entities in our country that benefit from war, and would also benefit from a loosening on of our civil liberty protections.  We can then look at  current events in a different light, as "means to an end".   

Maybe it's all crazy talk, I for one hope so, but if nothing else the film is a pinch reminding us to THINK, beyond what the government/media tells us, which is healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a broader point to part 1 of Zeitgeist.  The film isn&#8217;t saying some Christian conspiracy throughout history eventually caused 9/11.  I think it&#8217;s saying that religion has been used to control people for centuries, and has created an atmosphere where people no longer think critically about there lives or their leadership, and instead rely on religion.  And many who are in power today have been able to use religious fervor to their advantage as a result of it.  If we understand this, we can better understand Bush&#8217;s ability to characterize the war in Iraq (post 9/11) almost as a holy crusade against &#8216;Evil Doers&#8217;.  In societies where people supposedly have rights, a public which thinks critically is dangerous for those who&#8217;d like to rule.  Religion is a powerful and convenient sedative.</p>
<p>If we do think critically, then we can begin to question some of the things that are being forced on us (without feeling blasphemous or unpatriotic).  We can question the official report on 9/11, why Bush and Cheney were so secretive with the 9/11 commission, the overzealousness to go into Iraq (eventually finding no WMDs), the push behind the patriot act, the forming of the North American Union, etc..  These are all things which rational thought would question. </p>
<p>From here we can look at our history to see how we got to where we are, who has had power and influence, and how they&#8217;ve used it previously, to better understand our current situation.  And in that light perhaps we can start to look deeper at entities in our country that benefit from war, and would also benefit from a loosening on of our civil liberty protections.  We can then look at  current events in a different light, as &#8220;means to an end&#8221;.   </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s all crazy talk, I for one hope so, but if nothing else the film is a pinch reminding us to THINK, beyond what the government/media tells us, which is healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: driftreality</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-3891</link>
		<dc:creator>driftreality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah - I didn't make this film, I just blogged about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah - I didn&#8217;t make this film, I just blogged about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Audra</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-3887</link>
		<dc:creator>Audra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Your Zeitgeist Movie is really well done.  I was actually impressed when I watched it, but also saddened, since the concept of human beings having microchips implanted underneath their actual skin is simply nauseating to me.  How on Earth can the object of profit and power become so out of control?  This world needs to wake up and smell the coffee so immediately that it ain't even funny anymore, for REAL.  I have not been exposed to all of the media's propaganda for years, besides the radio nonsense I hear in public places, and the nonsensical propaganda jargon that goes way beyond Orwell's newspeak coming out of my neighbors' mouths on a continual basis, the never ending nonsense which they actually believe to be the TRUTH!  It sickens me to see how easily the masses can be opiated with religion, with media, with lies that they teach the children in schools.  I have said enough about issues at hand already.  You have done a great job in explaining a lot about how sick this world has become already.  Thank You for being so honest with people, Thank You for attempting to OPEN peoples' EYES, to make them REALIZE what is actaully going on in our crazy world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Your Zeitgeist Movie is really well done.  I was actually impressed when I watched it, but also saddened, since the concept of human beings having microchips implanted underneath their actual skin is simply nauseating to me.  How on Earth can the object of profit and power become so out of control?  This world needs to wake up and smell the coffee so immediately that it ain&#8217;t even funny anymore, for REAL.  I have not been exposed to all of the media&#8217;s propaganda for years, besides the radio nonsense I hear in public places, and the nonsensical propaganda jargon that goes way beyond Orwell&#8217;s newspeak coming out of my neighbors&#8217; mouths on a continual basis, the never ending nonsense which they actually believe to be the TRUTH!  It sickens me to see how easily the masses can be opiated with religion, with media, with lies that they teach the children in schools.  I have said enough about issues at hand already.  You have done a great job in explaining a lot about how sick this world has become already.  Thank You for being so honest with people, Thank You for attempting to OPEN peoples&#8217; EYES, to make them REALIZE what is actaully going on in our crazy world.</p>
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		<title>By: driftreality</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-3654</link>
		<dc:creator>driftreality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerome, I'll admit your perspective is interesting and I think you make a valid point about the fact that the film does present some interesting connections between Christianity and ancient religions. 

At the same time, my perspective was they were clearly trying to draw connections between Christianity, the Federal Reserve, the government being behind 9-11...

If you are going to make claims like this in a public space then my opinion is you have to be prepared to substantiate those claims and I simply don't think they do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerome, I&#8217;ll admit your perspective is interesting and I think you make a valid point about the fact that the film does present some interesting connections between Christianity and ancient religions. </p>
<p>At the same time, my perspective was they were clearly trying to draw connections between Christianity, the Federal Reserve, the government being behind 9-11&#8230;</p>
<p>If you are going to make claims like this in a public space then my opinion is you have to be prepared to substantiate those claims and I simply don&#8217;t think they do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excerpt from website: google horus dec 25 

Life events shared by Horus and Jesus
Stories from the life of Horus had been circulating for centuries before Jesus birth (circa 4 to 7 BCE). If any copying occurred by the writers of the Egyptian or Christian religions, it was the followers of Jesus who incorporated into his biography the myths and legends of Horus, not vice-versa.

Author and theologian Tom Harpur studied the works of three authors who have written about ancient Egyptian religion: Godfrey Higgins (1771-1834), Gerald Massey (1828-1907) and Alvin Boyd Kuhn (1880-1963). Harpur incorporated some of their findings into his book "Pagan Christ." 

He argued that all of the essential ideas of both Judaism and Christianity came primarily from Egyptian religion. "[Author Gerald] Massey discovered nearly two hundred instances of immediate correspondence between the mythical Egyptian material and the allegedly historical Christian writings about Jesus. Horus indeed was the archetypal Pagan Christ."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excerpt from website: google horus dec 25 </p>
<p>Life events shared by Horus and Jesus<br />
Stories from the life of Horus had been circulating for centuries before Jesus birth (circa 4 to 7 BCE). If any copying occurred by the writers of the Egyptian or Christian religions, it was the followers of Jesus who incorporated into his biography the myths and legends of Horus, not vice-versa.</p>
<p>Author and theologian Tom Harpur studied the works of three authors who have written about ancient Egyptian religion: Godfrey Higgins (1771-1834), Gerald Massey (1828-1907) and Alvin Boyd Kuhn (1880-1963). Harpur incorporated some of their findings into his book &#8220;Pagan Christ.&#8221; </p>
<p>He argued that all of the essential ideas of both Judaism and Christianity came primarily from Egyptian religion. &#8220;[Author Gerald] Massey discovered nearly two hundred instances of immediate correspondence between the mythical Egyptian material and the allegedly historical Christian writings about Jesus. Horus indeed was the archetypal Pagan Christ.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
		<link>http://www.driftreality.com/videos/zeitgeist-the-movie/#comment-3640</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another review that provides a barrage of criticsm without actually addressing the facts that ARE presented. There are quite a few ideas/concepts presented in PART I regarding religion. Are these all falsehoods? If not then which ones are true? Can someone point me to a review that actually addresses the content that is presented? 

It's a strange film. It's not a professionally produced film. It's not suppose to connect the dots--it presents varying ideas/concepts and, like many films, expects the viewer to draw their own interpretations/conclusions. It's not meant to be a phd thesis. It is meant to tantalize the base concepts that 1) religion is manmade and is used to control the masses, 2) the US government and especially the oligarchy known as Bush/Cheney fully knew and may have been directly involved in planning the 9/11 attack and finally 3) the world is hugely influenced by the international banking industry which has no allegiance to country--be it US or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another review that provides a barrage of criticsm without actually addressing the facts that ARE presented. There are quite a few ideas/concepts presented in PART I regarding religion. Are these all falsehoods? If not then which ones are true? Can someone point me to a review that actually addresses the content that is presented? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a strange film. It&#8217;s not a professionally produced film. It&#8217;s not suppose to connect the dots&#8211;it presents varying ideas/concepts and, like many films, expects the viewer to draw their own interpretations/conclusions. It&#8217;s not meant to be a phd thesis. It is meant to tantalize the base concepts that 1) religion is manmade and is used to control the masses, 2) the US government and especially the oligarchy known as Bush/Cheney fully knew and may have been directly involved in planning the 9/11 attack and finally 3) the world is hugely influenced by the international banking industry which has no allegiance to country&#8211;be it US or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Zar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is fake.

The film isn't even properly named. Zeitgeist means "The Spirit OF The Age", and the film didn't tlak about the prevailing mood of any time period.

The section about the Mythic Jesus was just recycled from soruces on the fringe that have long ago been discredited, from Acharya S to Gerald Massey ( who is himself a source of Acharya S, along with joseph Wheeles and Alexander Hyslop and Kersey Graves, all f which are also listed as soruces, and yet no mentin is amde of how much is copied straight form them in Acharya S.)

The Dyng and Rising god-myts they present, complete with Virign Birth, 12 Disiples, and Cruxafiction, did not happen in mythology, and if you pick up any standard work on ancient mythology, and read the myths of Horus, or Dyonisus, or Appolo, or whoever, you will note the abscence of all of tose features.

Horus was not Born of a Virign, for instance, nor was he Crucified.

The astrotheology segments are also bizzarre, and out of palce. COncepts such as "The Age Of Picese" woudln't have existed in the firts century, and are part of Modern Astrology, not the Astorlogy that woudl have been familiar to the Roman Emire.

And when you look at the rest of the clams that are about the Supposed Mythic nature of Jesus, noen fo them add up. 

For instance, Constantine never msde Christianity the state relgiion, and long before COnstantine was born, we have the Early Churhc Fathers writting of Jesus int he same way, as a deity.

No historian in the world would beelive this, and there is enough evidence ( as Ancint Hisotry is measured) for them to accept Universlaly that Jesus was a real man.

When you look at Sections two and three, they are just as bad.

A Missle hi t the Pentagon? Even other cnspriacy theoriests don't buy that ne.

9-11 was clealry commite dby Al Queda, who even took credit for it, and the unwarrented allogatiosn otherwise mad ein this film lack any suppoirt.

The same can be said of the bankign interest.

And , he origional poster is right, nothgn connects these three things, excet soem vauge notion of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is fake.</p>
<p>The film isn&#8217;t even properly named. Zeitgeist means &#8220;The Spirit OF The Age&#8221;, and the film didn&#8217;t tlak about the prevailing mood of any time period.</p>
<p>The section about the Mythic Jesus was just recycled from soruces on the fringe that have long ago been discredited, from Acharya S to Gerald Massey ( who is himself a source of Acharya S, along with joseph Wheeles and Alexander Hyslop and Kersey Graves, all f which are also listed as soruces, and yet no mentin is amde of how much is copied straight form them in Acharya S.)</p>
<p>The Dyng and Rising god-myts they present, complete with Virign Birth, 12 Disiples, and Cruxafiction, did not happen in mythology, and if you pick up any standard work on ancient mythology, and read the myths of Horus, or Dyonisus, or Appolo, or whoever, you will note the abscence of all of tose features.</p>
<p>Horus was not Born of a Virign, for instance, nor was he Crucified.</p>
<p>The astrotheology segments are also bizzarre, and out of palce. COncepts such as &#8220;The Age Of Picese&#8221; woudln&#8217;t have existed in the firts century, and are part of Modern Astrology, not the Astorlogy that woudl have been familiar to the Roman Emire.</p>
<p>And when you look at the rest of the clams that are about the Supposed Mythic nature of Jesus, noen fo them add up. </p>
<p>For instance, Constantine never msde Christianity the state relgiion, and long before COnstantine was born, we have the Early Churhc Fathers writting of Jesus int he same way, as a deity.</p>
<p>No historian in the world would beelive this, and there is enough evidence ( as Ancint Hisotry is measured) for them to accept Universlaly that Jesus was a real man.</p>
<p>When you look at Sections two and three, they are just as bad.</p>
<p>A Missle hi t the Pentagon? Even other cnspriacy theoriests don&#8217;t buy that ne.</p>
<p>9-11 was clealry commite dby Al Queda, who even took credit for it, and the unwarrented allogatiosn otherwise mad ein this film lack any suppoirt.</p>
<p>The same can be said of the bankign interest.</p>
<p>And , he origional poster is right, nothgn connects these three things, excet soem vauge notion of power.</p>
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